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January 20, 2003
* Upping evil cleric attack percentages - pass
* Upping evil cleric weapon proficiencies - pass, moved to S/S for work
* Apply command for organization inductions - fail
* Lowering auction fee to 5 percent - pass
* Timer to prevent retreating once attacked in Forested Strongholds - fail
* Config +/- rp, ic/ooc toggle, rpwho commands - pass
* Extending timer on drow alignment message - pass
* Lowering supplicate recall amount for Kalerd - pass

Passed VC:
*Eq colours
*Chardelete change
*Evil Cleric Idea - Necromatic touch
*Circle message

Passed CoE:
*Dig/ Bury Movement Cost
*List arguments in stores
*Underwater Attacks

Denied by CoE:
*Evil Cleric - Necromantic Touch

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January 27, 2003
    Topics:
        * Scan echo removal - pass
        * Trance/meditate room echoes - fail
        * Modification to forage skill message - pass
        * Mentoring program for new players - fail
        * Mystery box for auction - pass
        * Emit command - pass
        * Singing imp in Hell - fail
    Moved to VC
        * REWRITE: Auction Fee Modification
        * REWRITE: Kalerd Supplication Rates
        * REWRITE: Evil Cleric Attacks

    Changing Nation's hometown boards to make more race appropriate echoes when
    people remove/take notes has been accepted and communications with nation
    leaders will begin shortly.

    Passed by VC:
        * Track Corpses
        * Veiled steps messages
        * Weapon types
        * Mail check command
        * Instant line wrapping for notes
        * Crab guards in coral depths

    Denied by VC
        *Leader note removal

    Denied by CoE
        *Circle message - The overall feeling is that this will cause far
         more spam then it's worth especially considering the lag inflicted
         on the user.

        *Where modification - This was denied based on lack of realism really
         When you look around in a group you see everyone (hence how where
         looks now) change that to when you're looking for one specific
         person in a crowd of people.. you're looking for them eg Where Ceirana
         but you won't necessarily find them. Given this and the fact it's
         worked well this way for 8 years this has been denied.

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 Minutes for February 3, 03
Topics
    * Poisoned food to be affected by saves and resistances - pass, rewrite
    * Extradesc command - fail
    * Weather changes - pass, rewrite
    * Give all command - fail
    * Furniture store in DH - pass, rewrite
    * Disarm message showing weapon name - pass

If you are not yet in a sub-committee or unsure about joining one please come
see me to talk about it please. Linda has set up a nice website for sub use,
make sure to contact her if you are having issues getting started on it :)
Reps, make sure you are posting VC/CoE updates to your org's board as well.

Passed by VC:
    *Woodland Harmony/Druids
    *Friendlist change
    *Help Alignment change
    *Help hitroll/damroll change
    *Help Align change
    *DH Furniture
    *Auction appearance
    *Help pk_eq change
    *Mystical vision/fighting
    *Mistform message
    *Pet Keywords
    *Mystery box auction
 

Passed by CoE:
    *Mail Check
    *Crab Guards race in Coral Depths
    *Emit.

Denied by CoE (and reasons):
    *Ruination - In our opinion, Clerics are not a fighter class and there doesn't seem to be enough justification for another attack spell.
    *Malediction - There is no way we can put in a max of +7 on a mob/victims saves. Sav's are the one stat that still has some sanctity in it's
        real numbers. Perhaps after some work this one can be reconsidered but it's entirely too powerful.
    *Veiled steps message rewrite - Much the way that hide works it doesn't make sense to have sucess and fail messages.
    *Changing Javelins to missile weapons - Javelins were not meant to be missile weapons but we do agree that there is a lack of good
         missile weapons in the game. Builders encouraged to add to new areas.
    *Scan echo removal - Quite simply we were asked to add this echo in by the mortal population less then 6 months ago. Unsure why the
        change was made so it was denied.
    *Kalerd Supplication Rates - When deities first came in and we found a problem with glitches in helpfiles and miscommunication and
        people were given their one shot to redevote, Kali underwent a project to study the balance between the deities. He has balanced them
        out in several different fields, all of which are not 'obvious' to the player but important to balance of the game. As such this has been
        denied.
 

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February 10, 2003

Topics
* Roster changes to add on induction date - pass
* Vampires not losing bp while sleeping in dark rooms - pass
* Note take/remove messages showing which note - pass
* Examine echoes showing the short description of item - pass
* Group switch - fail
* Login change so deadlies can't log peacefuls at the same time - moved to PkC
* Meeting room for orders - pass
* Changing house/apartment keys for a fee - passed
 

Denied by VC
*Sneak message
*snare
* flower and rimshot socials.

Passed by VC
*Tzadkiel's touch cost adjustment
*Writing buffer echos
*Herald of Death cost adjustment
*Illusion, Disarm echos
*Pointing people toward Help Map upon char creation.

Passed CoE:
*Track corpse
*Friendlist adjustment
*Help Alignment change (implemented)
*Help Hitroll/Damroll (implemented)
*Help PK_EQ change
*Mystery Box Auction
*Auction Appearance Adjustment (commas)
*Mystical Vision Castable while fighting (implemented)
 

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February 17, 2003

Topics:
* Wings of Death, evil cleric group fly spell - pass
* Umbilical, evil cleric hp drain spell - pass
* (Gold) items being holdable but not wearable - fail
* Auction houses in hometowns - pass
* Banks in hometowns - fail
* Post offices in hometowns - pass
* Glory option to remove enchantments on weapons - pass
* Automatic config +nice after fighting in open arena - pass
 

Passed by VC:
*Note take/remove
*examine eq echo
*Weather project
*Roster proposal

Denied by VC:
*Evil clerics weapon proficiencies
*Darkhaven furniture store
*Res_posion affecting food poison

Passed by CoE:
*Mistform miss message
*Writing buffer echos
*Pointing people to help map when starting new char (implemented)
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February 24, 2003
Topics!
* Lastname command - pass
* Revelation, dev/neut cleric spell - pass
* Giving exsurgo a spell echo - moved to Skills/Spells sub
* Traverse/beacon echo color change - fail
* Capping resistance percentages - fail
* Additions to oldscore (deity, bank, org info, path) - pass
* New trading system to exchange an item for gold - moved to Building sub
* Who 'path' - pass

Denied by VC:
*New use for glory
*unbilical spell
*sheathing of weapons.

Passed by VC:
*Consume proposal
*Roster proposal
*note take/remove
*Wings of death
*Missile weapons changes
*Act of Faith
*Unholy Invocation
*Cloak the Gathering
*Blood loss in darkened rooms
*Gohome and Pets
*House accesories/furniture code
*Command to force people to leave homes
*Config +gag
*Bed accessory for houses
*Cloak of elvenkind race change
*Auction houses in Hometowns

Denied by CoE
Disarm echos - It's easy enough already to check when you are disarmed, this seems a bit lazy.

Drow alignment/Race message - While it is possible to be a devout drow it is obviously against the path of their race and it's our feeling that we shouldn't be making it easier or more pleasant for them as it falls out of logic to do so.

Druids getting woodland harmony - This spell was intended to be rangers only and wasn't made for druids. It was part of the slist balancing and to give it to druids would go against that intent.

Help Align change to show what the words mean - We would rather give them a list of the levels but not exactly what they do.. like help favor_levels

Pet Keywords - This was denied because we don't have locate abilities for mobs and to design such a function to track down lost pets didn't seem like a good idea.

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March 3, 2003
Topics!
* Adding resist_unholy and resist_holy as glory rates - pass
* Notes addressed to All being takable as well as removable - fail
* Config option to gag whisper echoes - pass
* Nadur Ciall being castable in combat - pass
* Rewrite: Post offices in hometowns - pass
* Rewrite: Room echo for Exsurgo spell - pass

Denied by VC
*Unholy Desecration
*Clutch command

Passed by VC
*Whois not affecting trance (done)
*Open Arena Change
*Oldscore additions
*Revelation for clerics
*Who path
*Commas for experience prompt token
*Look sign/signet change

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March 10, 2003

Topics!
* Accretion spell for evil clerics - pass
* Sanctify spell for devout clerics - pass
* Note writing command /m to center - pass
* Making salves auctionable - pass
* Viewing areas file like roster (ie. areas aa az) - pass
* Peaceful timer for Badlands - pass
* Mail read/unread flag - fail
* Devotion required for most cleric/paladin spells - fail
* Safety despoit boxes at bank - fail
* Ability to modify appearance in a room (ie. kneeling vs. standing) - fail
* Unused notes keyed to blank - pass, rewrite
* Nation leaders being able to edit hometowns - fail
* Making nations into separate councils - fail
* Making thieves and clerics available to all races - fail

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March 17, 2003

Topics!
* Gith fathomers - pass, rewrite
* Continuous style adepting, like weapon proficiences - fail
* Changing Ocean Keep mobs to human race - pass
* IP check for auctioning - fail
* Auction start prices - fail
* Non- variable to exclude (eg. get all non-potion) - pass, rewrite
* Backwear defaulting to back slot rather than body - pass
* Nephandi evasive style lowered from level 8 to 6 - pass, rewrite

The following had 20 or more no votes and were clear fails:
* Lizardmen triple wield - fail
* Lizardmen changes (clerics, increased dex and ac, res_poison) - fail
* Anonymous mode to make name unknown to other players - fail
* Obey command (optional charm person) - fail

Special notes:
* Note copy for mortals
This has been denied many times in the recent past, and failed as a result.
* Immortal team to address areas of game difficulty
This is already something currently in the works every day. There are several councils available to field suggestions for areas in need of work, and immortals are always focusing on problem areas and the like.

Passed to CoE
*Exsurgo Message
*Glory rates for unholy and holy resistances
*Nadur Ciall
*Auras helpfile
*Dismiss all
*Help mana
*Light minpos

Passed by CoE
*Reduced blood loss in darkened rooms
*Gohome and Pets
*Bed house accessory addition
*Commas for experience prompt token
*Who path - already being worked on
*Look sign/signet

Denied by CoE
*Command to force players to leave a house - They need a key to get in,  we assume you invited them it's like trying to get rid of in-laws.. very realistic. In all honesty, we just don't see the need for this.
*Config +gag gagging missed attacks of others - This would require massive code changes to be possible so while it's not a bad idea we just don't have the resources to devote to something relatively trivial and majorly time consuming right now.
*Oldscore changes - On average oldscore is used 150 times every 24hrs in comparison to score which gets used 10,000 times in the same period according to our stats. This doesn't seem necessary in retrospect.
*Cloak the gathering (vamp skill) - Neat but a little too much for
(right now..note was cut off so I will assume that's the rest of it).

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March 24, 2003

Topics:
* Tell list command to show 5 most recent tells - pass
* Style indicator for group display - pass
* Livelink characters check - pass
* Apartments given some storage space - pass
* Donation bot characters being excluded from IP checks - pass
* Resubmitted proposals having waiting period - pass
* Donation mobs for all guilds and orders in place of bots - fail

Passed to CoE
*Peaceful timer for Badlands
*Auctionable Salves
*Note write command /m
*Ocean keep mobs change of race

Denied by VC
*Config +/- whisper
*Nation leader flagging
*Backwear default
*Blank note keyword addition

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March 31, 2003
Topics!
* Nation eq given stats - pass, rewrite
* Nephandi recalling with curse - fail
* Failed login notices for security - pass
* Using all.item for more commands (eg. empty all.bag) - pass
* Private pk arena for peaceful organizations - on hold for clarification
* Settable front titles (eg. Chief, Lord) - fail

Welcome to new at-large members Gandrith and Zilensko who graciously died
in an initiation of brutal pkill!

Passed By VC
*Nephandi disruption/evasive style
*Gith added to Fathomer class race selection
*Cloak additions
*Cloak coded descriptions
*Style indicator in group.

Denied by VC
*Purge house key
*Tell List
*Donation bots IP change.

Passed CoE
*Auras Helpfile
*Dismiss All
*Help Mana helpfile
*Peaceful timer in Badlands
*Auctionable Salves
*Note write command /m.

Denied by CoE
Unholy/holy added to glory rates - We don't see being able to add these
resistances as sensible or logical.

Titlechange config - A lot of hard work was put into creating the titles for
each class for each level. Consider it more of a push to level to avatar or
something.

If you have questions, contact a TS member.

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April 7, 2003

Topics
* IP compare command for leaders - fail
* Benefic Aura mana cost change from 50 to 5 - pass
* Settable recall points - pass
* Whios command for typoers - fail
* Barbershops in game - on hold, code already in place
* HT tokens being usable by all races for Tagertale transport - pass
* Description toggle to switch to game-given description - pass

Passed to CoE
*apartment save space
*all.item change

Denied by VC
*Config +/- social
*Failed login alerts
*Atomic social
*Crow social

If you have any questions, ask a TS rep.

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April 14, 2003
Topics:
* Removing bp cost from daytime mistwalk attempts - fail
* Marriage commands and added line to whois - pass
* Containers auctionable when empty - pass
* All races available for all classes, and suggested races in hfile - fail
* Spending gold from bank account like checks - fail
* Anonymous mode for posting notes - fail
* Who list visible to all despite invis - pass
* Tagertale plaque with hometown phrases - pass
* Lowering the drinks level in the auction house - pass

Passed by VC
*
all.item
*Apartment save space
*Benefic Aura mana cost adjustment
*Setting recall
*Tokens to Tage
*Description Toggle

Denied by VC
*
Config +/- social
*Failed login alerts
*New Trade system
*Nation eq having stats
*Private Pk arena for guilds

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April 21, 2003
The following were clear passes by the note votes and were moved to VC as is:
* Rewrite: Tagertale plaque
* Rewrite: Auctionable containers
* Exsurgo castable in combat
* New respawn object type
* Long description change to a swarm of locusts
* Auction change from 5 times to 3 with longer intervals
* Graduated minimum bid increments
* Pandora's Box reboot item
* Note list vote change to show your voting status

The following were clear fails by the note votes and were removed:
* Cycling mobs in and out of game


There will be no meeting on the 21st due to the proximity of Easter. Enjoy your
night off and enjoy a clean board ;)


Skaphia
 

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April 28, 2003
* Evening experience rates for classes - There are indeed class modifiers which affect the rate experience is gained for each class, however they cannot be disclosed. Some workings of the game do have to be left a mystery :)
* Reverting says to their original form (no wonders or exclaims) - pass
* DT insurance for a gold fee - fail
* Stone items with special unique spells for each class - moved to Building sub
* Changing academy pouches to bags - pass
* Group display command modification - pass

Passed by VC:
*
Extradimensional portal echo
*Fill amount
*Empty amount
*Fountain in warehouse
*Blood fountain accessory
*Nephandi's casting reveal in battle
*Deposit and Commas
*Fathomers/Create Food
*Tagetarle plaque
*Auctioning empty containers
*Note list modification
*Pandora's box
* Auction length to 3 longer rounds
*Change to exsurgo min pos
*Respawn Deaths

Denied by VC:
*Personal AFK message
*Marriage command
*Graduated Minimum Bid Increments

Passed by CoE:
*
Empty/Fill commands to allow certain amounts
*Extradimensional portal echo
*Add fountain in warehouse
*Deposit command to show commas
*Fish skill for fathomers
*Change to auction rounds
*Auctioning Containers
*Plaque at Tagetarle
*Note list vote modification
*Make inscribed blade a short blade.

Denied by CoE
*Gith's being allowed to be Fathomers - We don't agree with the statements made in favor of this and don't believe it's logical to allow Gith's to be Fathomers.
*Cloak wear loc changes - Not all cloaks have hoods so the argument that this change will make it more realistic is false. The assumption that all cloaks cover *all* of the locations listed here seems more unrealistic to us.
*Further cloak covering - Same argument as for wear locations but to add to that what kind of cloak hides your height??? Sorry this isn't logical either.
*Style indicator for group - This isn't so much denied as we're going to overhaul the group display completely.
*all.item - According to the code people this is a pain to code and  there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of benefit from it to justify the painful coding process.
*Apartment save space - Apartments were only ever meant to just be a room without any frills such as houses have. For the time being we would like to keep it this way.
*Benefic Aura mana to 5 - We've lowered it to 25 we will not go to 5, Paladins  should not have the same ability with spells as clerics. *Settable recall - This wouldn't be a bad idea if we had multiple towns but  aside from Hometowns we don't and we have tage to cover those for now so we see no need for this at this time.
*Hometown tokens to Tage - Tokens are meant as a means of entry not  for giving instant transport for others around the realms. *Description Toggle - Kali has stated he has explained their reason before for denying this one and will be happy to again if someone  wants to know (he's sleeping right now so I'm not going to wake him to ask)
*Wasp Sting - It's not literal, it's a metaphor.. deal with it.

If you have any questions about these, please contact a TS Rep.
 

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May 5, 2003
Passed:
* Increased buffer size for channels, notes, bios, etc. - rewrite
* Ownership tagging no longer applied to description editing of items
* Transport and portal reallowed into Sentinel and Gauntlet
* Vampire scan during the night
* Expanding other cities in game (ie. add post office, shopkeepers, repairs)
* Statreport and report display changes for non-magic users

Failed:
* Mana costs for spells displayed in practice or slist -- The amount of mana needed for some spells fluctuates depending on the stats of the caster, making a mana cost display much less useful. In regards to logic it does not make much sense for a mage to look up how much magic he needs for a spell but rather to experience it first hand. And lastly, we do not see a real need or demand for implementing this idea.
* New cslist command to view slists of other classes -- Considering any slist can be accessed by merely creating a level 1 character in pre-auth and typing 'slist', we do not see any need to provide this as a command for convenience. Plain and simply, this is more a tool for the lazy and not the way in which people should find out more about other classes. And for realism's sake, it would be impossible for anyone to view the abilities of a different class without pursuing that class first hand.

As you can see I will be adding explanations to the proposals we fail as per the request of many people. Please come next week for new member slaughter :)


Skaphia

Denied by VC

*Group Display Modification
*Change to Says

Passed by CoE
Pouches for Newbies

Denied by CoE
Cast reveal in battle - Given that mobs go vis when attacking you, we don't see any need for reveal to be cast during battle.
 

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May 12, 2003
Passed:
* Supplicate restore
* Feed skill usable on bodyparts when low on bp
* Waitstate changes automatically updating prompt

Failed:
* Supplicate cure to remove blind/curse/poison etc. - From a sensible point of view it was felt that curing ailments such as poison or blindness was not something a deity would typically do. And considering the vast availability of pills, salves, wands etc. which exist to cure people of these afflictions, adding this as a supplicate option for a hefty favor cost hardly seemed something which would be useful or frequently used.

* Owner-tagged items regainable after DTing - We were informed by the TS immortals that the only item this idea would apply to is the sliver of glass. This greatly narrows the need for this idea, and as we were further told that the sliver was not likely to be adjusted in that sense, there was no sense in passing this proposal.

* Name changes in pre-auth not rerolling stats - This problem is not really a problem; simply create a name and see if it is authed before you spend countless hours rerolling for desirable stats. In consideration of newbies who might not know better, however, we did pass a similar idea to make it impossible to reroll until after a name is authed.

From last week
 * Ownership tagging no longer applied to description editing
of items, this has been implemented, please see help ownership

Passed by VC
*Add room to pre-auth
*Change to help ownership (Implemented)
*Scan at Night with Vampires
*Building: Multiple Towns
*Changes to stat/statrep & report for non-magic users

Denied by VC
*Allow portal/transport in Sentinel and Gauntlet

Passed by CoE
*Vampire scan at night working in darkness
*Change to stat/statrep/report for nonmagic users
*Adding reroll room to pre-auth (identical to final room)

Should you have any questions or concerns, please consult a TS Rep.

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May 19, 2003
Passed:
* Fountain at National Visions - rewrite
* Increasing ignore limit - rewrite
* Save command not disrupting afk

Failed:
* Preventing spam-out by reroll command
Considering it is not that difficult to save every 19 times you reroll a char rather than spam yourself out, we did not see a need to make an exception for this command. This was also viewed as an encouragement to mindless authing.

* Warriors choosing their primary stat
We could not find any reason why warriors should get this option over another class, or the logic in this change. If a warrior chose something other than a primary stat of strength, it would hardly still be a warrior.

* Druid helpfile change
Describing druids as odiferous fits well in the helpfile's description of the class as being close to nature and lacking in charm and grace. Why change it?

* Ignore command to block all IP-checked alts
There was concern that such an ability would provide a lot of leeway into discovering the alts of others. Also, if someone's need to ignore a person has to span over all their alts too, then that leans more toward the need of immortal help and potential harassment. We also weren't sure such coding was possible given IPs that are frequently changing.

Passed by VC
*Increasing extra description buffers
*Auth status in preauth

Denied by VC
*Increasing channel buffers
*Increasing roomdesc buffers
*Increasing note buffers

Denied by CoE
*Nolog flag to skulks room
This would only cause people to log off one room away instead of in Skulk's room. We are exploring alternate ideas.

Should you have questions please contact a TS rep.
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May 26, 2003
Passed:
*Aegir being able to send treasures items.
*Config +autobury
*Key usage - being able to see what you have locked instead of just click.
*Empty brewed flasks - so they can be used again.
*Mail list - showing who is was addressed to and when it was sent.
*Lillies and daisies being changed to type flower.

Failed
*Spells being able to be cast below the required mana. It was felt that spell casters need certain requirements to cast a spell, mana being one of them and if it was below the required amount, they couldn't cast their spell.

Passed VC
*Supplicate Restore
*Compass in Config
*Hell release time in config
*Change to include name in logon message
*Extra removers closing other peoples votes
*Auction starting amounts working with k/m amounts
*Help Hunger/Thirst Levels
*Restore on level
*Change to armor exam to include level range
*Bloodlet increasing thirst
*Sender as a note keyword
*Layerable items showing on identify
*Help Mobile
*Find item searching containers first
*Two-handed weapons

Denied by VC
*Waitstate token updating prompt - Felt the amount of updating was enough during fights.
*Reroll only after being authed - Many like it prior to authing, and what if there is no immortal online right away?
*Vampires feeding on bodyparts - Vamps need fresh meat!
*'Save' and the AFK state - was decided saving indicates activity.

Passed by CoE
*Add compass to config

Denied by CoE
*Increasing ED buffers - There doesn't seem to be a great enough need for this to warrant devoting coding resources towards changing it.

If you have any questions, please contact a TS rep.

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June 2, 2003
Passed:
* Class group bonuses - players getting benefits from classes grouped with them
* Blood fountains giving more blood per drink
* Lowering level restriction for ring engravings

Failed:
* Gaining levels through roleplay - this would be too hard to monitor and judge on which char is properly rp'ing or not as everyone has their own ideas of what good rp should be.
* Mentoring programs for new avatars - again very difficult to monitor and many guilds/orders already do this, including NC
* Classifying characters by stats on A-F scale (18/18 thief an A, 14/14 an F) This does not take into account base hitpoints or mana and people usually just traffic the stats that they are offering to buy or sell.

Passed by VC
*Adding Fountain in National Visions
*Unlock showing which key was used
*Mail list to show more information
*Aegir sending treasures
*Traffic not being used while stunned
*Extending guide line in buffers to show true length
*Poisoned weapons lasting longer/usable only by thieves

Denied by VC
*Making coral depths flower 'plant' types - Project already underway
*Auto-bury - Too many configs as is. Some things you need to learn to do for yourself.
*Increasing ignore slots - If you have that many people to ignore, perhaps there is a problem.

Passed by CoE:
*Two-handed weapons
*Finditem searching containers first
*Adding a help mobile file
*Addition of 'basic level range' in armor exam
*Restore on level up to level 25
*Adding help hunger/thirst level files
*Ability to use k and m in starting auctions
*Extra_removers can close other peoples votes
*Addition of character name to welcome message
*"Layerable" flag to show on identify

Denied by CoE
*Sender as note keyword - This used to be the case, however was intentionally removed due to abuse.
*Bloodlet affecting thirst - Bloodlet and thirst are two different things entirely. That said, we have agreed to change feed not to affect thirst.
*Hell release time in config - People are told when they are sent to hell originally, and should pay attention then rather than counting down to the minute they are to be released with config.

If you have any questions, please contact a TS rep.

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June 9, 2003
Passed:
* Continuous advancement after reaching avatar
* Rewrite: Lowering level to engrave rings at Borlin
* Allowing gold tokens with split command - on hold
* Allowing token use with the roster command - on hold
* Mudmailing coded leaders through their org's abbreviations - rewrite
* Character's org displaying on the where command - moved to Building sub

Failed:
* Permanently swapping names between two characters - This is something which
won't be changed for certain, as we were told a character's name is related
to its pfile.

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The TS meeting on Monday, June 16, 2003 at 8:30pm est was open to the public to watch the workings and debate involved in TS meetings. Anyone was free to attend but rules of behavior were be clearly set so that a level of spam and order was maintained. If you have any questions, please send a tell to any TS immortal or Skaphia.

Thank you for your cooperation in what I thought was a very orderly and
successful public meeting tonight. I was a little sad to see we did not have
as many things to debate about as usual, but in any case the turnout was very
good and there was a big request for more open meetings ;)

I would like to hear some feedback from those who attended the meeting as far
as things we could do differently, things we did well, etc. Is this something
you want to do on a regular basis?

Skaphia

Passes:
* Sundial for Darkhaven
* Unique ranks for all guild leader spots
* Rewrite: mudmailing leaders by their organization's abbreviation
* Examining donation containers with arguments (ie. exam case ring)
* Enhanced quaffrate for peacefuls when in the arena - rewrite
* Guild/order tags showing on where like clans
* 'List all' option at shops to see all items for sale - rewrite
* Adding arguments to list command (ie. list warrior human) - rewrite

Fails:
* Leaders setting their leader group bonus onto alts - This is a _leader_ bonus not a leader's running alt bonus.
* Tells logged while afk and a replay command to see them - There are many ways to contact someone while afk: beckon, mudmail, trigger scripts. Realms is not an answering machine.
* Config option to see/buy non-usable items in shops - Why add another config option just for shopkeepers? There are easier ideas we passed for this issue.

Passed by VC
*Houses having colour flags

Denied by VC
*Blood fountains increasing bp by 20 - Felt this was unrealistic.
*Changing minor invocation message for caster - Too spammy, not to mention that it is not supported code wise. Would require a rewrite of smaugspells.
*Lowering level to engrave wedding rings - Gives lowbies something to aim for.

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June 23, 2003
Passed:
* Pet whistle item (pet auto-tracks back to owner)
* Peacefuls respawning with eq when killed in arena
* Haggle command (used in shops to attempt lowering item costs)
* Rewrite: Enhancing peaceful quaff rate in arena
* 'List all' rewrite also including ability to buy items
* Adding genres to who arguments (ex. who fighter, rogue, etc.)

Failed:
* 'Who area' command (shows people in the area in a who display)--This was felt to be not needed

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June 30, 2003
Passes:
* Findnote/item change, shows container item was found in
* Editing command /q, adds text onto a wrapped line
* Adding casting messages to several druid spells

Fails:
* Auction starting at item's value if no amount given - An item's value is rarely a factor of overall worth, so this didn't make sense with auction.

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July 2003-December 2003

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