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January 5, 2004
Passed:
* Repairshop adjustment - repairshop mobiles would tell a player that they do
not have enough gold to repair an item using a different colored say.
* Naming Pets - would offer a predetermined list of names to choose from to pet
buyers - moved to Forums for further work.
* New helpfile for wear wield remove
* Fix to helpfile help scroll - will include magical tablet as a means of
identifying items.
* Change to locate object - would show multiple corpses even in rooms that have
the same names. Easier to do corpse retrieval.
Denied:
* Pet naming - using auth code for weeding out illegal names.
It was felt that this would mean immortal involvement. The immortals
already have enough work as it is without getting into pet authing.
* Pet naming - using existing algorithms, pet names would be generated.
It was felt that this would take up valuable resources that could be
used elsewhere to further develop the game.
No updates from VC or CoE this week.
Angelea Endymion
January 12, 2004
* Containers with backwear location to show over cloak - Passed
This would allow a character to use config +cloak and still have their backwear
container over their cloak.
* North/No - Passed
Make the mud return a 'Huh?' when no is entered to save on dt's.
* Change in mob damage messages - Denied
It was felt that this was unecessary and would give some too much of an
advantage in pvm. The messages we see now are sufficient.
* Config +rp toggle off at logon - Denied
It was felt that those who want to rp have the toggle on for that reason and do
not need to toggle it back on each time they log on.
* Pets to be allowed into Hometowns - Moved to Forums for further work.
Great meeting!
Angelea Endymion
Denied by CoE
*Solar Flight - It was a big move for the imms to remove astral from all classes
but mages and a backpeddle to go and introduce plant pass, solar flight etc. We
aren't looking to up any of them.
*Whois addition - whois is getting rather large and this doesn't look like
something that's particularly useful.
Passed by CoE
*Druid Meditate Adjustment - Stat based gains
*Tanning Hides - Used at area authors discretion
*Manadh Taosq (PKC) - Deadly only druid spell
*EQ Damage messages (PKC)
As always, contact a TS member if you have questions.
Kinux
January 19, 2004
Passed
* Add to spell helpfile if it is brewable
Denied
* Changing styles - Since there is already a prompt token that can be colorised,
TS saw no reason to add a colorised version of the message when changing styles.
* +/- config option for "just reached Avatar" message. - It was felt that the
small amount of spam created by the message was not something deemed worthy of
having a config option attached to it. Coding time can be better spent doing
other projects that will benefit the game.
There are no updates from VC or CoE this week.
January 26, 2004
Passes:
- Adding if you are translucent to the prompt token of hide/invis etc.
- Connecting help remove to the help wear/wield helpfile
- Not being able to buy from shopkeepers you can't see (hidden or invis)
- Allowing pets to enter hometowns by way of a phrase/portal entrance
- Waypoints - New code for builders to increase mob use and movement.
Fails:
- Charging glory to add a save component on apartments. This has failed many
times in the past and was felt to not be necessary.
Denied by VC
Adding whether spells are brewable or not.
- Many aspects of the game are meant to be unknown until tried, this is one. As
with deities, directions and other items helpful to the realm, there are many
websites that support discussing info such as this.
If you have any questions, please contact a TS member.
Kinux
February 2, 2004
The following proposals were voted on:
* Gag levels for fight spam - moved to Forums for further work
* Pet names - Passed - moved to VC
* Help Olympics - Pass - trophy will be updated to reflect that there will be no
more Olympics held. - rewrite Ardaria
* Mob lag progs and supping recall - Pass
* Area Economy to reset when area not in use for several hours - Pass
* Config option for news - Denied
It was felt that the spam incurred to alts who are logged on occasion
from news message was not something that needed a config option.
Good meeeting all. Enjoy the PK for our new members, Ordem and Hivaqaviel
:)
Angelea Endymion
Passed CoE
*Not losing favor for supp corpse (PKC)
*PK Data levels.
Denied by CoE
*Gremlins Recalling - Pets don't recall, neither should gremlins.
*Forested Strongholds - Potions are already 5k cheaper than empties and the
author of the area wishes not to change that.
Denied by VC
*Where for shortforms
*Remove center command
*weight command
*config +/- give
*auction bids and ip
*deities list in alpha order
*unarmed skill
*time prompt token
*ordertalk color change
*lights and dark rooms
*socials command.
Passed by VC
*Remove Hold slot in garb list
*closing portals
*split all (coins)
*whois NL (would show nation leader in whois of player)
*Title command showing current title
*slist arguments
*date connected
*commas for buying house/appt
*supplicate recall message
*dodge/parry adjustment with 2-hand attacks
*oemote prompt.
Kinux
February 9, 2004
The following proposals were voted on and moved accordingly:
* Furniture save - Passed
Certain items like bedrolls, sleeping bags and beds would save with the user
when they log off.
* Gold - Pass
Give more gold to certain mobs, higher midas values to some quipment
* Two-handed magic user staff - Denied
This should be left up to builders.
* Mobs and trigger punctuation - Denied
Half the fun is figuring out what to say and how to say it to a mob when
exploring an area and figuring out puzzles.
* Minimum level 6 for weapon types to show up on practice - Denied
There is nothing wrong with practicing weapon types before level 6. Once a
player has reached level 6, it's easy to see what weapon type they are
wielding as it begings to adept automatically once practiced. Practicing weapon
types is not a waste of practice sessions prior to level 6.
Angelea Endymion
- Denied by CoE -
Gremlins recalling - Pets don't recall, neither should Gremlins
Forested Strongholds - Potions are already 5k cheaper than empties and the
author of the area wishes not to change that.
- Passed CoE -
Held in Garb - implemented
Closing portals
Split all - implemented
Whois NL - implemented
Title command - implemented
Slist Arguments
Date Connected
Commas in house and apt prices
Supplicate Recall message - implemented
Dodge/parry and Two-handed
Oemote prompt
Containers not disappearing when empty - implemented
- Passed by VC -
Config +shields
Top ten honor
Guild and order rosters
Max AC on ID
Auction display to include state of repair.
Herb effects
Waypoints
Drunken Text
Translucent
Repair adjustment
Adepted spells
Enod social - will be implemented shortly
- Denied by VC -
Ambidexterity - too close to what two-handed and swap do for warriors
Star signs
whois brief
Drunken coin dropping
Pet suggestions
Backwear containers
Disarm Modification
Where for shortforms
Remove center command
Weight Command
Config +/- give
Auction bids
Deities list
Unarmed Skill
Time prompt token
Ordertalk colour
Lights and dark rooms
Socials command
Added Xp for ip1
Naming Pets
Economy
Mob lag and supplication
Sea-elf Vampires
North/No direction change
Remove enchant - As an aside this was coded a long time ago and CoE decided it
wasn't something we ever wanted to put in (by long time I mean Haus coded it).
If you have questions, please consult a TS member.
Kinux
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February 16, 2004
The following proposals were discussed and voted on:
* Hardcore Mode - Denied
A player would only be able to log one peaceful character and once that
character died, it would not regenerate. All equipment etc would be lost
* Housing transfer - Passed
Would enable two players to buy a house or apartment without using the benefits
of homebuy. The transaction would be recorded automatically.
* Purge apartment key toggle - Passed
Would enable the owner of a newly purchased home through housing transfer to
purge any previously made keys for that home upon taking ownership.
* Shorten spell flags - Denied
Ex: Hide(H) Translucent(T) Invis(I) when you see a player standing in a room. -
The proposal was voted down since new ideas were brought forward that would
change the whole idea.
* Gag Levels for fight spam - Passed
Would enable a player to gag more than misses etc.
* Nation Deities - Denied
It was proposed that each Nation be assigned a deity like orders/clans. The
proposal was voted down as nations is not a coded organisation. Immortal
participation is purely voluntary. And most immortals when approached for help
with quests etc are more than happy to help out.
* IOQ/IGQ quest channel - Passed
A channel that would be activated during IGQ and IOQ quests and open only to
guilded or ordered players.
* Add to Hints: Information about CoD - Passed
Would give information directing new players to help cry
That's it for today. Good meeting
Angelea Endymion
- Denied by VC -
Increase Gold Proposal
Furniture Save to apartments
- Passed CoE -
* Config +shields - Default config option to see the full shield instead of the
abbreviated form
* Top ten honor - will list the top 10 players with the highest honor
* Guild and Order rosters - the ability to remove deleted chars remade in
another class
* Max AC on ID - implemented
* Herb effects - more herbs with new/different effects
* Translucent - will be part of prompt token for hide/sneak/invis - implemented
* Repair adjustment - repair mob will tell you if you do not have enough gold in
a color other than the one normally seen during repairs
* Auction display /State of repair
* Waypoints - adding building code to allow mobs to follow predescribed paths
without the use of a repop
- Denied by CoE -
* Drunken text - this was the point of the drunken code in the first place and
it's pretty restricted as is.
Contact a TS member if you have any questions or concerns.
Kinux
February 23, 2004
* Glory rates for adding glow/hum to equipment - Passed
* Update for help skinmask helpfile - Passed - Implemented
* Silenced/helled showing in whois player - Denied
Buyer beware, if a tell you send to the character you are buying sends you back
the message that this character is helled/silenced....It is your choice if you
still want to buy a char that is helled/silenced. There is no need to display
this information in the whois.
* Reduce experience loss on recalling from combat to same as flee - Denied
Fleeing from combat involves an element of risk, recalling from combat brings
you to a nice safe haven. Hence the higher cost in exp loss.
* Penal colony - Denied
It was felt this proposal would encourage players to break the rules/laws of the
game for the infamy of being in the penal colony and having stats displayed in a
rogue's gallery.
Nice meeting all!
Angelea Endymion
- Denied by VC
Silenced flag showing to mortals in whois.
Gag levels for fight spam.
IOQ/IGQ Channel.
- Passed by VC
CoD info in Hints
Housing Transfer Proposal
- Passed CoE
CoD info in Hints
For information on the above, please contact a TS member.
Kinux
March 1, 2004
The following proposals were discussed and voted upon:
* Bash skill - Denied
Bash success rate would have been dependant on the victim's constitution - It
was felt that the skill's effects were fine as they are now.
* Gouge skill - Passed
Gouge success rate dependant on the victim's luck.
* Forrested Strongholds - Adrenaline counter for retreat - Denied
It was felt that this proposal would cause a great deal of imbalance between
peaceful and deadly pk'ers in the arena.
* Disown for pets - Denied
Pet whistle was passed by CoE and is awaiting implementation. This would solve
the existing problems with losing pets.
* Sacrifice safety - Denied
To add a safety to the sacrifice command for items level 45 or higher and full
containers would force player to type sacrifice in full instead of short form of
"sac <item name>" - Players should be responsible enough to keep track of items
etc.
* Forrested Strongholds - non reset timer (like gouge lag)
This proposal was moved to Forums for fine tuning and further development.
Passed by VC
*Glory rates for adding glow/hum
Passed by CoE
*Glory rates for adding glow/hum
If you have questions, please consult a TS rep.
Kinux
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March 8, 2004
Clear Passes:
- Snuff: this would allow Player to extinguish his pipe and save the remaining
contents for a later time vs waiting them to burn out
- who path. This proposal would allow someone to type "who destruction" (for the
path of destruction), rather than the currently required "who 'path of
destruction'
Clear Fails:
- passlock command - This command would simply disable the 'password' command
while passlock is enabled. This failed for a few reasons, one being that if you
aren't absolutely sure about a person, don't let them use your char to begin
with. Also, it could cause problems with trading chars.
- Deity Affects to show in AFF - The proposed change is to make this affect show
up in the AFF list with something like --- to show up for the duration. This
failed because affected_by shows you everything you are affected by. where
AFFected shows you only what spells have been cast on you. Also, some deities
also give some resists. Therefore, it was felt that all these should remain in
aff by.
Denied by VC:
Failed spell message to include spell name
Luck to affect gouge skill
Should you have any questions, contact a TS member.
Kinux
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March 15, 2004
The following proposals were discussed and voted upon:
* Woodland Harmony spell syntax change - Denied - In order for the syntax of
this spell to be changed to show a message when attempting to cast it on self,
the spell would have to be made into an offensive spell. This would ruin the
intent of the spell.
* Pixie to receive a bonus to dodge as a race affect - Passed
* Petfind command - Passed - This would enable the petowner to find out the
geo/area/room their lost pet is located in.
* Sheath - Pass
A config option that would enable the user to sheath his weapons.
* Config +/-auras - Pass - The config option would allow the user the choice to
see or not see the glow/hum/magical tags in front of equipment on themselves or
others.
* New command Note/Mail read "next" - Pass - The command would enable the user
to simply type note read next without having to use a number, this would
automatically bring them to the next note
* Blorin - engraving service - Denied - Mobs cannot enter a buffer to edit
object descriptions which renders this proposal useless.
* Magic flag removed/added using glory - Pass
* Corpses, deathroth, cold storage - Denied - This proposal would have sent
corpses to a special room for cr purposes when the tick timer ran out for later
imm cr. The risk of losing all your belongings when exploring, running, etc is
an integral part of the game. Removing this would greatly reduce the excitement
and challenge that makes the Realms interesting. No need to change this.
Passed CoE:
Housing Transfer
Denied by VC
Who path - Changes to the who code will not be considered due to the complexity
of the code currently.
Snuff for herbs - It is already possible to stop a lit pipe and it was decided
coding resources would be better used elsewhere.
Passed VC
Help Arena, Help Posess, Help Minpos helpfiles submitted
As always, questions can be asked of TS reps.
Kinux
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March 22, 2004
* "look all" - Passed - similar to 'scan all'. Show what is in the rooms
immediately around you.
* Float/fly message - Passed - Would clarify if a character is floating or
flying by just looking
* Spiral Blast Adeption fix - Passed - The spell does not go to 95% as it
should. If it did go to full adept augurers would have a higher chance of
casting it successfully.
* Arrow weight - Passed - Reduce weight of "fletched" arrows from 2 to 1 to
match others in game.
Denied by VC
*Sheath - Remove it if you don't want to wear it. With some types of weapons,
this approaches rediculous.
*Magical Glory - Not realistic - magic is intrinsic. Consider the implications
to existing and future areas & builders specifically making non-enchantable
weapons
*Note Read Next - Can see the point but it seems frivolous
*Config -Auras - Another config +whyshouldIhavetoreadanythinginatext. Adds
to/takes nothing from the game.
Passed CoE and on project list.
*Help Arena
*Help Minpos
*Help Possess
*Bonus to Pixie Dodge
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The following proposals were reviewed,
discussed and voted on:
* DH guards and gates - Passed - A way for guards to open the gate at night for
players to pass using either a social or bribery (to be determined by VC/CoE)
* Avatars as trainers - Denied - People need to travel to DH to practice
skills/spells. This will not change - A feeling of accomplishment is much better
when one works for what they achieve in the end.
* Bring back Tage - Denied - Tage was removed as a combined decision from NC and
CoE. Stoneheft will attest that this mob was too much hand holding and really
impeded the ability of new players to learn anything by trancing them around.
This isn't a mob we're willing to bring back.
Denied by VC
CD Gold - Will only change the level of the bots. Will cause more complaints.
Float/Fly message - The message is logical. If you looked in the room, a person
appear to be hoverng, not zooming around.
Look All - Seems like laziness. Scan is a skill. It is learned.
Passed by VC
Arrow Weight
Denied by CoE.
Pet Find - Pet Whistles is already on the project list and will be implemented
in time.
As always, questions or concerns may be asked of TS members.
Kinux
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April 5, 2004
The following proposals were discussed and voted upon:
- Customizable enter/leave game messages - this failed as people could pick
their own enter/leave message which could cause confusion. A similar idea has
moved to the forums with more restrictions.
- changed xp formula for adepting spells - this passed and the idea was to give
more experience for people who adept the spells at lower levels (when they
actually get the spell as opposed to waiting until av to adept it)
- Classes Idea - this idea failed. It was to show which class had certain
spells or skills. It was felt that people could make a new char easily enough to
find the particular spell, but the mystery of not knowing if there too.
- News search string - this idea passed and was a way to find an item in the
news by typing news search (keyword).
Any questions, please talk to a TS rep
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April 12, 2004
Passed TS
Green highlight for enter game message
Denied by CoE.
Pet Find - Pet Whistles is already on the project list and will be implemented
in time.
Passed to CoE
New mob, servant of the Duke, will reveal a secret passage to new players out of
DH.
News search search string
Denied by VC
xp formula for adepting spells - would discourage exploration, not comfortable
with this type of direct code change
For questions or to pass along comments, please see a TS member.
Kinux
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April 19, 2004
Pass - To delete the magic carpet echo when in a no fly/non-magic area.
Fail - Pretitles being bought for glory, It was felt that people have earned
these titles and buying them would lessen that.
Pass - Muti target spells. (not room attacks but being able to target multiple
chars/mobs in the same room).
Sea Code Idea - sent back for further clarification.
Passed by VC
Enter game message highlight (from forums)
Kinux
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April 26, 2004
Passes
- Rock, paper, scissors prog (being rewritten)
- AFK not to Interrupt Manaregen
- Changes to affect the preauth area (being rewritten)
Fails
- Having new chars that dt be able to keep all their eq. It was felt that dts
are a learning experience and further suggestions to add more of a warning about
them will be discussed next week.
- Coding items that have 0 gold so that shopkeepers can sell them. This failed
because builders have reasons for making an item worth 0 gold and not wanting
them sellable.
Passed CoE:
New mob: aid to exit DH (was DH guard bribe proposal)
news search search string
Enter Game Message Highlight
Dynamic map for DH (Sort of a 'You are here" thang)
Passed VC:
Magic Carpet Message change
Denied by CoE
Lower Arrow Weight - We need to deal with missile weapon problems before
making changes to them.
Please contact a TS rep if you have questions.
Kinux
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May 3, 2004
Passes:-
* Adding line to 'help repair' file.
* Missed attacks should still initiate combat.
Fails:-
* Orgtalk - This was considered unnecessary and most clients allow for alases
which could perform this function.
* Corpse Sacing - It was considered that this would make gaining favor more
difficult. (this idea was to not allowed corpse saccing while in battle
* Honour channel for duels -It was considered that there are enough
channels and means to issue challenges without an extra channel.
Returned for discussion:
* Immortal Weapon Retrieval to be included when getting an imm cr.
Denied by VC
AFK not to Interrupt Manaregen - Trance/med are active. A person concentrates
when doing so. A person shows as 'in a deep trance' and so, it is apparent that
they may not respond.
Passed to CoE
*Scrap help file
*Rock,Paper,Scissors game command
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May 10, 2004
Passes:
- Making the Mongrel friendly to lower level players
- Being able to evade the Treant Spirit
- Adding a trans prog from Sonoria to the academy for new players.
- Adding a key of 'blank' to blank notes
- Changing the program on the housing keys so they don't drop when worn.
- Adding the shortforms of k-for thousand, etc to homebuy auction
Fails:
- Changing cleric's trance to the word prayer. Perhaps this may be brought up
again in the future, but with the many coding things right now, we can only take
ideas that are deemed essential.
Denied by VC
-Building Proposal: Multi-target Abilities. Some good ideas here. TS should be
aware that VC member-builders were intrigued with them. TS might consider The
Area/Building Office in the DH Town Hall as a place to communicate with
builders.
Passed to CoE
-Arena messes (death progs and new room)
Denied by CoE
-Rock, paper, scissors game - neat idea but not necessary. Please don't lose
this and bring it back up when we're less resource-constrained.
Passed CoE and on project list
-Help Scrap
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May 17, 2004
Passed
*Mounted Attacks
*Change in extracting gold from a corpse
*Death Traps for Newbies/New Avatars
*Room Name Proposal - The Misery of Mourning
*keywords for Darkhaven gate-keys
Failed
*saddle bags- It was felt that mob inventories would cause too many problems.
*imm weapon retrieval- It was felt this would go against Immortal laws *Help
Objects* Immortal weapon retrieval - this was for an imm to get a disarmed
weapon when they got the corpse from a cr. It failed because people felt that
was part of the risk when fighting a mob and although the corpse will decay, the
weapon won't and people could also get help to go back for it.
Passed by VC
*Blank notes keyed to 'blank'
*keydrop adjustment for housing keys
*Lowbies able to evade the Treant Spirit
Denied by VC
*tell prog on Sonoria to trans lowbies back Academy - there are methods in place
now to help people after they've died. They keep their eq, help map exists, NC
exists as do other helpful players. Interacting with others is part of a MUD
life.
*Make the mongrel more friendly to lowbies - Mob doesn't detect invis, and
already provides a valuable lesson on the benefit of invis affects.
Passed CoE
*Missed attacks should initiate combat
As always, if you have questions, please consult a TS rep.
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May 24, 2004
Passes:
* Summoning Characters (low-levels in particular)
* Multiple corpses in the same room appearing on locate
* Antall, the Lost Harbor level restriction
No proposals failed this week.
Denied by CoE
*Room name change in Geo's - Misery of Mourning. The name and its use was the
author's intent. Options like supplicate and imm CRs are available. We should
not compromise the intent of the builder for the 'ambiance' of their area just
to make it easier for the Newbie Council when there are other options.
Passed CoE:
*Remove Trant Spirit's detect hidden
*Blank notes keyed to blank-note
*Keywords for Darkhaven gate keys
*Revamp/move Academy fake DT (Was: Death Traps for Newbies/New Avatars)
*Residential keys not zapping (Was: Keydrop)
As always, consult a TS rep if you have any questions.
Kinux
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May 31, 2004
Passed by TS:
* Gre'Vos Naos Relocation
Failed by TS:
* Calenders - This doesn't work since days are reshuffled every reboot.
* Missed spells initiate attack - regarded as not meaningful since mobs cannot
distinguish between a language they do not recognise and spell utterances. A
alternative has been sent to CoE.
Denied by VC
*OOC - Seems not worth coding when we're only saving typing three letters.
*Antall - level restriction Avatar - Lowbies will find themselves in bad places.
This is part of the learning process.
*Multiple corpses on locate - Modifying locate object is deemed undesirable at
this time. Encourage your dying friends to devote and use remains.
*Summoning newbies - It makes sense that a mob would remain angry with you.
*Rude gesture social
Please see a TS rep with questions or concerns.
Kin
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June 7, 2004
Clear Passes
*Pre-Auth Proposal Reduce Spam in Room 1
*Pre-Auth Proposal Add Room and Item
*Pre-Auth Proposal Add Containers Lesson (1)
*Pager affecting "cast locate" and "exam container'
Failed
*Evil Alignment - It was felt that such a change would only cause problems and
should be left to builders.
*Mudmail notification change - it was felt the mail system works fine as it is.
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June 14, 2004
Clear Passes
*Help FAQ - a file for the most frequently asked questions by new players
*Bank Safety Deposit Box System
There will be an open TS meeting on June 28.
Passed CoE and, previously, VC
*Move Gre'Vos devotion area entrance - - passed -with- the new location
suggestion.
*Help Walk
See a TS rep if you have any questions.
Kinux
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June 21, 2004
Failed
*Proposal: Free Rename Removal
Passes
*proposal alternative: rename removal for 10 glory
Denied by VC
*Pre-auth - add room and item. This is contrary to the spirit of the MUD and
particularly to the pre-auth area.
*Pre-auth - add containers lesson. This doesn't seem to be any more effective
than tossing the syntax at them. As well, learning -how- to learn is an
important part of learning.
*Safety Deposit Boxes - Not essential at this time. Other storage methods are in
place. Can see the point for lowbies but too many restrictions and ongoing
administration difficulties make it prohibitive.
Passed to CoE
*Pre-auth - reduce spam in first room
*Pager affecting "cast locate" and "exam container
*Help FAQ
Denied by CoE
*Pager affecting "cast locate" and "exam container". In a word, no. Yes, there
are good reasons pager behaves the way it does. It's not likely to change.
If you have questions, please contact a TS rep.
Kinux
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June 28, 2004
Passes
*Giant Containers for Homes
*finditem - worn/inventory (different message for worn/inv)
*new command, 'floorfind' - like finditem but for stuff on the ground.
*MOTD command for order/guild leaders - to remind people of various events
Failed
*Proposal: Area echo when entering donation rooms - It was felt that this would
be incredibly spammy and a donation bot was more effective.
*Proposal: aligment changing messages - It was felt that this was not needed as
alignment can already be seen in prompt.
*Proposal: written in blood - This idea was so that notes couldn't be copied as
they were written in the blood of the author. It was felt it was not needed as
only the author/leaders can copy notes and there was little problems with it.
Denied by VC:
*Rename removal glory cost. A rename is a rename
If you have questions or comments, please contact a TS rep.
Kinux
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