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January 2004-June 2004

July 5, 2004
Passes
*Container order adjustment*
-look in containers- will look in your inventory first. So look pouch would be in your inv (instead of the pouch on the floor) and -then- it would look into the pouch on the floor with 2. or 3. depending on how many you have in your inventory.

Fails
*None

Denied by VC
*Floorfind command
*Find item - Floor/inventory
*MOTD command for order/guild leader

Passed by VC
*Containers for homes

If you have questions or concerns, please contact a TS rep.

Kinux
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July 12, 2004
Passes:
*Proposal - the config command should report back which option has been set.
*Glory Rates for Char Stats - lowering of these.
*Item deletion level change - so non-avs will not lose items of higher level when they log off.

No fails this week
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July 19, 2004
 

Passes
*housing kick-out command: a command for removing unwanted guests from your
home. - this was denied a few times in the past, so I will be asking about it before posting.

Fails
*Prompt Token for Position: A prompt token to show what position you are in. - It was felt that it would be a waste of time for coders and not necessary.


 

Passed VC:
*Help file for baker cake
*Config Configured - Shows what you config'd.

Denied by VC:
*Container order adjustment - Coders have looked into this before. It's huge and has major implications.
Item deletion level change - If you can get it once, you can get it again when you level.
Glory change for character stats - Character stats can't be lost in a DT or scrapped.

Passed CoE:
1K containers for homes

Please see a TS rep if you have any questions.

Kinux
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July 26,2004
Passes
*Optional Roleplay Noteboard for Orders - Allow each order the use of one additional noteboard, used strictly for roleplay.

Fails
*Houses and Apartments - this was to "bestow" the gohome command to home owners so that they could *bestow* the gohome to others or *bestow* none to remove it. Most felt that people can make an alias and that this was not needed.

Passed by VC
*Housing kick-out command
*Ignore Slots Expansion

If you have questions or comments, see a TS rep.

Kinux
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August 2, 2004
Reunion weekend (no TS meeting)

Passed by VC
*Config -exp for peacefuls

Denied by VC
*RP boards for orders - Was felt there was little need for this and that board usage was already restricted (so orders would have to give up a board they already use).

If you have questions, please consult a TS rep.

Kinux
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August 9, 2004
Passed
*Favor in prompt -Favor to be added to prompt
*Housing transfer "As seen"This proposal is to allow the extras such as: bought extra rooms, extra storage capacity and glory bought colour or extra descriptions or sector flags, to transferred, to the new owner, in the case of the 'housing transfer' proposal which was passed by CoE in early March 2004
*Added writing tool- Proposal: a addition command to the writing tool /d # (delete x amount of lines)

Fails
*HT recalls - Home Town recalls - recalls to home towns
*Change half races to full races (it was felt they would be too powerful)

Passed CoE:
*Config change confirmation - Will explain what was adjusted when you config something.

Denied by CoE:
*Config -exp for peacefuls - Deadlies have the config option to allow fighting at different levels as pkill pacing varies from lowbie to av. Config -exp for peacefuls would mainly be a way for people to be able to farm out lowbie areas with greater ease.
*Housing kickout command - If they were let in, they can be "let" out.
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact a TS rep.

Kinux
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August 16, 2004
Passed
* Add a prompt token for system time.

Fails
* Starving" and "Dying of Thirst" - Make "Starving" and "Dying of Thirst" not viewable to others-It was felt that these messages help lowbies in that Avatars who would help them eat/drink etc would not see them.
* Proposal:a new kind of'collectible' point called a Run Point,much like Honour or Glory - It was felt that higher mobs have their own reward for running them (eq and such) and Guilds/Orders can handle this on their own.

Passed VC:
Success Message for Steal
Elemental Supremacy hitchar message
Housing transfer - "as seen"
Favor in prompt

Denied by VC:
Added writing tool - block delete

Should you have any questions please contact a TS rep.

Kinux
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August 23, 2004
Passed
*None

Failed
*Peaceful org victory and defeated lists, which would be for Orders and Guilds like PK Orgs Have,it is felt that peaceful orgs do not need this, and would not add anything to game play

Passed VC
*System time for prompt

Denied by CoE
*Favor in prompt - Favor, at least from our perspective, is less tangible than hitpoints or mana. If you want to know how your deity feels, take the time to look. Worth isn't that spammy.

Passed CoE
*Housing transfer "As seen" (including glory adjustments in transfers)
*Ignore slots - to be increased to 25 only. If a person really finds they need more than this, it's time an immortal interveneed.
*Success message for steal
*Elemental Supremacy hitchar message

Should you have any questions, please contact a TS rep.

Kinux
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August 30, 2004
Passed
*Critical Strikes- A critical strike is a lucky blow that is particularly effective. It does anywhere between 1.5 and 2 times the damage of a regular blow, and is based solely on your LCK score.
*Auction proposal - not able to bid on item auctioned from your IP
*Affect Argument Proposal- To add an argument to the 'affect' command ie (affect sanc) would tell you how many rounds you have etc.
*Auction Proposal Adjustment-Modify the Auction function to disallow a character to sell an item if they do not have the applicable auction fee for, ie Justice is worth 2m gold. 1/20th of the item(1/20*2m = 100k)

Failed
*2nd Auction proposal - make it so that you cannot auc something if you  don't have the gold to cover it if it doesn't sell. ie the auctioners fees.
*ascii helpfile for major mobs - people are welcome to draw their own and submit them to TS.
*who 50- showing class instead of avatar was denied because people thought who 50 class works just fine ie who 50 Vampire.
 

Denied by CoE:
*Time in Prompt - Time is a simple command to type. Limited available prompt tokens will be reserved for future, more beneficial uses.

See a ts rep if you have any questions.

Kinux
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September 6, 2004
Passed
*Styles in Group- ie
Following Player [hitpnts] [ magic ] [mst] [mvs] [race]
Following Player [hitpnts] [ magic ] [mst] [mvs] [race][Style] ..etc

*Glory purge - would allow an item to be purged of all glory spent on it over time, including renames, the items description, add/remove  glow/hum etc, effectively returning the item to its stock form.

Failed
*Instant Av'ing, An idea for roleplayers - most thought if it really mattered that much people would av a character. ie lowbie starving/thirst spam.

*Bad Mental State Penalty Change- most feel this would just be more spam and it is fine the way it is.

Denied by VC
*Critical Strike - There are already many bonuses in fight code. Other concerns were that the percentages suggested were too high.

*Disallow bidding on auction from your IP - If you bid, you run the risk of actually buying. Also, bidding with an alt is one means of getting something back that was accidentally auctioned.

*Affect argument - tricky code when the information is already available albeit in a spammier form.

See a TS member if you have any questions.
Kinux
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September 13, 2004
Passed:
*Lowering the prices of blues in DH
*A new note buffer command /t to allow you to talk while still in the buffer.

Failed:
*The idea of a pillory in DH..like a public punishment room failed because people would want to be punished to experience it, causing more problems.
*The idea of a char being in both a guild and an order on the same char failed because it would be too confusing and you could just make an alt anyway.
*The idea of the kill buffer being based on a timer rather than the number of mobs killed failed because it was felt that the current way works well.

Selina

Passed VC:
*Teleport room
*Remove auction fee

Denied by VC:
*(Idea) Combined death cries
*(Idea) Midas on containers
*(Idea) Opponent argument
*(Idea) Remove invis
*(Idea) INCREDIBLE health
*(Idea) No theft from the poor
*(Idea) Title Change
*(Idea) Climb echo
*TS - Glory Purge - Simply? No. This is considered a way to get around the flags.
*(Idea) Midas message

If you have any questions, please contact a TS rep.

Cappa
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September 20, 2004
Passed
*Avatar+ - Awarding a rank to those who kill more than a percentage of different avatar mobs.
*Addition to the "tell" command- Simply typing 'tells' would retrieve and display your last 5 tells.

Failed
None

Denied by VC
(Idea) Retired Imms Club
BTW, this one was very close. I think part of they reason why had to do with who exactly would be included. If you're at all interested in persuing this, perhaps you could post a new proposal with that, and perhaps more, specific information. Otherwise, the idea just dies.

Write buffer command - /t. Besides technical reasons not to do this, either you want to write, or you want to talk. Also, there are cues to the room room that you are writing.

Nations Ranks

Passed CoE:
You may have noticed that many recent proposals and items from the Ideas list are already implemented and have been reported in News. They wont be repeated here.

Games help file ;(Idea) Help hell;(Idea) Revise help deadly
(Idea) Helpfile-benefits of new levels ;(Idea) Help economy for mortals
(Idea) Help Helter Skelter; (Idea) Gain display on level; (Idea) Pipe
Examine; (Idea) IP Silence; (Idea) Grip for paladins

Passed by VC:
Lower blue potion prices in DH

Denied by CoE:
Styles in groups - While helpful for run leaders and others to be  able to verify this information quickly, Ultimately it is up to the  individual player whether he wants others to see this information. Perhaps  some are cowardly set themselves down a style or two. Whatever the reasoning,  let's maintain the 'bluff' aspect of styles. This should be private  information.

(Idea) Flex skill (for fighters. Remove weaken)
(Idea) Snorin' echo to the room when person sleeping

As always, if you have questions or comments, see a TS rep.

Kinux
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September 27, 2004
No meeting.

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October 4, 2004
*Passed
None

Failed
* Auction Fee: reinstate it or make it so a character with the same IP as the auctioner can't bid on the item. It was felt that Auction works fine as it is

Denied by VC
*Save not disturbing AFK status

Denied by CoE
*Lower the price of blue potions
*Addition to Tell command (allow 'tells' to display a tell list) - seems unnecessary coding. It it's that important either the person will resend the tell or the recipient will stop fighting to have the conversation

Should you have any questions or concerns, contact a TS rep.

Kinux
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October 11, 2004
There will be no meeting this week as it's the Canadian Thanksgiving, but here
are the ideas that have passed.

- Removing emote and oemote from level 1s as a few people have been using it to interfere with rerollers.
- The idea of drows being able to be warriors.

No fails this week.
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October 18, 2004
No passes or fails this week in TS.

Selina
 

Passed by VC
*Remove OEMOTE from level 1s
*Drow Warriors

See a TS rep if you have questions/comments.

Kinux
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October 25, 2004
Passes:
- Sometimes when a person zaps, all their eq goes to inv, not just the stuff  that has a specific align. This has been sent to the coders to check out.
- The idea of not losing/gaining any favour while in the arenas has passed.
- The idea of a a carriage return in the whois information for the line preceeding the start of the bio. This was suggested to break up the large block of text.

Fails:
- The idea of clerics having a better weapon or an increase on one of their weapon skills has failed since it was felt that clerics already have good weapons that suit their purpose. They aren't meant to be pure fighters.
- Changing the empty head quest on the Northern Trade Route so that all the mobs pop at the same time failed as people felt it's meant to be difficult and the builders of that area also fully agreed with their reasons.

Passed CoE:
-Add Drow Warriors
-Remove emote and oemote from level 1

Please see a TS rep if you have any questions.

Kinux
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November 1, 2004
Passed
*None

Failed
*Equimpment- Change where EQ is placed. It was felt that it is fine the way it is and would not bring anything to the game.

Passed by VC
*pk arenas to be flagged no favor gain/loss
*Carriage Return adjustment

See a TS member for questions.
Kinux
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November 8, 2004

Failed
** weight issues, Not allow a char with max weight to create items, ie balls of  light, it was felt that being magic items they are fine as is.

Passed
**Friendlist enhancement Adding a 'friend group' command something similar to the following: friend group alts = creates a group in your friendlist named 'alts' friend <name> ie Mari alts Mila Maridia etc
**Double heals, Suggested spell - Elixir of Life 3 weight, 800 mana to brew, a special empty in an av only area and level 50/cleric buyable only that costs 400 k, cleric only with changes/additions
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November 15, 2004
Passed
**Drowning- have a room echo for drowning.
**Aff_Fly deities- deities that give aff_fly should give it at favor level slightly under max loved. Lower the favor level for aff fly.

Failed
**Avatar+ and Mkill Honour, it is felt that running large mobs have their own reward and adding a rank would not make game play better.

Denied by CoE
**PK arenas to be flagged no favor gain/loss
**Carriage Return for the portion of whois preceding the bio.

Denied by VC
**Friendlist enhancement

Please see a TS rep if you have any questions.
Kinux


We at TS invite one and all to an open meeting November 22, 2004.
At 8:00 pm EST, All are welcome to come see what we do.
Mari
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November 22, 2004
Failed
**Double heals- brewable- double heals being added to the cleric's slist.
**Realigning for gold-use gold to realign,it was felt this change is not needed A little work won't kill you =P
**Refavoring with gold- use gold to refavor, it was felt that this is not needed, refavoring is easy enough as it is. if you feel you need an easier deity redevote to one that will fit your needs.
**Eq Slots- Create 'eq slots' These slots would be used to examine your eq. A player would type 'exam slot legs'etc, it was felt that it is fine the way it is. and alternate proposal was passed.
**Sacrifice- min pos for sacrificing, it's felt this is not needed.

Passed
**Rescue Bug- stop players from uncloaking and recloaking using rescue.
**General Rewrite - Darkhaven Archers- Change the bows to missile weapon types and have the archers missile-wield them. The archers should also have small quivers with several arrows. and also duel weild a short sword.

Passed by VC
**Room echo for drowning
**Aff-Fly deities giving fly at lower-than-loved

Denied by CoE
**PK arenas to be flagged no favor gain/loss - Deities have benefits and disadvantages that run though the entire game.
**Carriage Return for the portion of whois preceding the bio. - No reason given for denial.
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November 29, 2004
Passed
*Roster Addition - In the current roster command, you can look up names or shortnames, or even just a letter. To define the search request.  This suggestion to add to this, would to allow roster to also check for classes. Such as Rangers.It would then give a list of Rangers on the Roster.
*Apple Farming Proposal- Instead of transing those in the area to DH which would result in new scripts, an alternative idea would be to throw an aggro mob in there by the apples.
*AC in Worth Display- proposal to include armor class to fill the empty box in the "worth" display

Failed
*Apples of Life- Make apples of life not show on locate - this will mean that anyone who wants to collect them has to at least be in the area.
*Feeding off the undead - add Add immunity to feed or mobtype or flag "undead" ie skeleton, spectre, ghoul, undead as well as mob plants .
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December 6, 2004
Passed
**align restricted spells-
Change slist with different colour depending on alignment restrictions, or be able to use "slist <alignment>" as in "slist devout" or "slist evil" to see what is available exclusively for a certain alignment.

Failed
**Transferring Funds Between Accounts- between alts on same ip. It was felt that it is easy enough to log alts to exchange gold.

Passed CoE:
**Room echo for drowning

Denied by VC:
**AC in worth. VC is reluctant to use the last slot in worth for something that has little meaning to many players after a certain point. Please reconsider and propose something more useful to more players.
**Class in Roster - Not useful enough to enough people to code.
**Apple farming proposal. VC will continue to consider the issue. Other proposals will be accepted and considered.

If you have any questions, contact a TS rep or immortal.

Kinux
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December 13, 2004
Passed to CoE:

Apple Farming/Botting Change
Darkhaven Archers Adjustment - Giving them bows

Should you have any questions, consult a TS member, or TS Immortal.

Kinux
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December 20, 2004
Passed
*None

Failed
*Drizzt Do'Urden- make Drizzt stronger with no eq or gold changes. It was felt that the mob is fine as it is.
*Friendlist transfer,The idea is to add the ability to transfer one's friendlist between characters logged into the same ip.  This idea was failed because it is easy to copy and add your friendlist as it is ie. friendlist Myceran Aragon Wiglaff
            You add Myceran to your list of friends.
            You add Aragon to your list of friends.
            You add Wiglaff to your list of friends.

Passed by CoE for implementation:
*Add a room echo for drowning
*Remove cloak/uncloak when rescuing
*Rewrite for Darkhaven Archers
*Darkhaven Archers firing on flagged players
*Huzzah social

Denied by CoE:
*Align-restricted spells - If you want to know what an alignment has, become that alignment. This is your spell list, not online shopping.

Denied by VC:
*Grouping bonuses while levelling
*Gnaw social
*Banzai social

If you have any questions or concerns, please consult a TS rep or
TS Immortal.

Cappadocius
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December 27, 2004
No meeting for this week.
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Jan - Jun 2005