TS Meeting Minutes Archive

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July 2004 to December 2004

January 3, 2005
No meeting for this week.
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January 10, 2005
Passed
*None

Failed
*RP Proposal: to give Nation Leaders different coloured flags as well as who nation leader command, this proposal was failed because there is a list of nations and leaders as well as their RP names and hometowns in the command 'nations'.  As for adding colour, people thought this was not needed.

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January 17, 2005
Passed
**config +gag proposal - config +gag to include your groups misses.

Failed
**dodge/parry- This proposal is to change the max percentage of  dodge/parry/tumble/ect to lower values if in aggressive or berserk, and  possibly higher values (or maybe just not at all) for defensive and evasive.  It was felt that the dif styles cover this issue well enough, it would not change gameplay for the better.
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January 24, 2005
Edmond stopped by to speak with the TS members and answer questions.

Passed
*Proposal to Simplify Layout of Library of Prophets - Remove shifting exits
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January 31, 2005
Passed
*House proposal- give houses buyable blood fountains,ie the same as buyable springs which can be bought already.

Failed
*"faithful" devotion - a reward for those who stay with the same deity for  a certain amount of time (which can be agreed upon later) it was felt this would only lead to paying chars to idle.

Denied by VC
*Config +gag proposal - In code, others' gag messages are to the room, not to specific players. In gaming, misses are a critical part of learning about a mob in battle.

Passed to CoE
*Simplify Layout of Library of Prophets

Should you have any questions, please contact a TS rep.

Kinux
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February 7, 2005
Passed
*Practice all-instead of typing prac each skill/spell individually, it just practices everything. In the event that you don't have enough practices, for all the new skills/spells you get, the prac all command can just return an echo saying something to the effect of "You don't have enough practices for all your skills/spells, practice them individually".

Failed- None
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February 14, 2005
Passed
**a tribute to those that have played here and passed away. It could be a room with a sign/statues or a simple sign placed somewhere in DarkHaven. Just something in remembrance of our friends who are no longer with us.
**to add a bank to each hometown and order.

Failed
**None

Passed to CoE
**Blood fountains for houses

Denied by VC
**Practice all. Doesn't distinguish what skills to do and not to do up until level 5-6 when you have more practices than you know what to do with. It's also a lot of effort to save experienced people a few seconds per level. Will cause other complications for other players.

If you have any questions or concerns, please consult a member of TS.

Cappa
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February 21, 2005
Failed
*The idea of using extra practices to increase spell/skill adeptness by a %, from 5-10% failed because it was felt that it would be way too powerful and too easy to increase skills or spells.
*The idea of being able to copy journals from one to another. This failed since most people didn't really use journals all that often and therefore didn't see a need for it. This came from various guild and order members. It was felt that with limited coders/time etc, that this idea could perhaps be brought up again in the future when/if people had an increased interest in journals.

Denied by VC
*Tribute to our Fallen. When a person passes, their closest friends or their organisation always seem to create a tribute to them in some way. A room with signs/statues naming every player who has died will become little more than a name on a wall and not the sensitive tribute needed by those left behind. This is something that, however well-intentioned, could never be done well on such a scale. Loril's note: Please also be sensitive to your immortals who would be in the position of having to determine the validity of a request.
*Banks in orgs. Branch banking is not medieval. Reaching Darkhaven is easy. To be fair, we would need one in every clan, order, guild and hometown out there.

Any questions or concerns should be directed to a TS rep or TS immortal.

Thanks,
Cappadocius
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February 28, 2005
Passed
**makeleader command- instead of having to re-follow, have the current leader do a "makeleader <person>" when you're in a group and the leader needs to be changed, or someone else made leader of the group.

**Journal Customization (rewrite) - have a mob that can add your name to the journal for a fee.

Failed
**using earned glory to change race & using earned glory to add an echo to eq or weapons. It was felt that this proposal should have been 2 not the one and that it would possibly lead to abuse, ie changing race for certain weapons etc.

Passed by CoE
**Hints for non-experienced players
**Simplify Library of Prophets

Denied by CoE
**Purchasable blood fountains. We got no explanation from CoE on this one. If Loril's take helps in any way, I'd guess blood fountains would be tantamount to free mana. There is no ability for mana users to make a one-time purchase of forever-free blues. Vampires can, however, purchase the ability to -not- suffer daytime blood loss.

Any questions or concerns should be directed to a TS member or TS immortal.

Cappadocius
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March 7, 2005
Passed
*None

Failed
*An idea to add an extension to the 'examine' command to handle specific items. Eg: 'examine birch violet' for a quick check of critical consumables failed. It was felt that people could use multiple containers to keep more organized and was not needed at this time.

Passed VC
Makeleader command

See a TS rep of immortal if you have any questions.

Kinux
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March 14, 2005
Failed
*Removing the half troll race from augurers.

Passed
*None

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March 21, 2005
Failed
*new barbarian skill proposal- it was felt that this was not needed as a mob does this already
 

Passed
*Proposal: Antall/McManus - Lesson Antall, McManus and trans times by adding an object (ie rigging or a gangplank) that would allow runners to get back onto the ship after the first kill bypassing 7 room trans.

In other TS news, I have assumed the position of Head of TS.
I feel very humbled by having to fill Selina's shoes,
but I am very excited about the challenges to come.
Please feel free to contact me with any TS related issues.
My door is always open.

Thanks,
Cappadocius

Passed CoE:
*Journal Customization

Please see a TS rep for information.

Kinux

March 28, 2005
No updates for this week.  No passes or fails.
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April 4, 2005
*Proposed a new format for meetings called a colloquium where the individual who proposes the idea would be invited to speak to the group and field questions. This would remove opinion-based discussion and focus on understanding the issue at hand. This idea is to be posted on the forums for feedback and comments.

If you have any questions or concerns, please contact a TS member or a TS
immortal.

Thanks,
Cappadocius

Denied by VC
*Antall, McManus and trans times. - The piece of the area in question is clearly behaving as the builder originally intended. Desirable equipment is traditionally placed after some set of obstacles and so is the case here.

Please see a TS rep should you have any questions or comments.

Kinux
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April 11, 2005
Passed
**Victory/Defeat proposal- Peaceful org victory and defeat lists
**Increase buffer lines - ie in oemote etc

Failed
**Make pets pacifists/create a death echo - it was felt making pets passive would lead to abuse and may cause issues with those players who can pk on mounts.
**Personalised Guild/Order Containers - it was felt that guilds/orders would be used/abused by those using their donnation rooms as storage.

****BTW some of us have changed times so make sure you are here next week on
time and have a great week!

-Mari
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April 18, 2005
The following poeple are to present proposals April 25, 2005
**Possible solution to lost pwords - Theodore
**Increase level of 'chardelete' command - Myceran
**Lowering Mana Cost 4 brewing - Ordem

No passes/fails this week.
***Please let us know and have someone ready to present if
you cannot attend.

Some need to be checking Forums, with the new format it is imperative that you
log and work on the items posted there.

-Mari
 

Denied by VC
**Victory/defeats for guilds/orders - this is really a deadly thing. While there is some interest in peaceful pkill, it isn't the main thrust of guilds or orders. As well, it is an arena activity with no risk.  We can't really see any need for it.

**Increasing emote/oemote buffers - We actually -do- see possibilities for abuse. Anything that takes half a room description size to describe has a lot of potential to become annoying. Aside from that, when oemote was increased, it was done with the understanding that it stopped there.

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April 25, 2005
**No Passes/Fail
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May 2, 2005
No Passes/Fails
-Mari
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May 9, 2005
Passed
*Multiplay indicator for group display
*Possible solution to lost passwords

Failed
*Gambling proposal - Imm hosted gaming

If you have any questions, please contact a member of TS or a TS immortal.

Cappadocius
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May 16, 2005
Passed
**Increase level of 'chardelete' command- To increase the max level at which
you can use 'chardelete' from level 5 to level 15 or 20

Failed
**Lowering Mana cost for brewing - lower the cost of mana to brew a potion.

If you have any concerns or questions, please consult a TS member or a TS
immortal.

Regards,
Cappadocius

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May 23, 2005
No meeting this week.
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May 30, 2005
Passed
**Make Brewing Heals Cost Less Mana (pending rewrite)

Failed
**Offer Cheaper Heals For Sale in DH

Passed to CoE
Idea: Arealist command revision allowing, for example areali
Idea: Give/weight message for overburdened recipient
Idea: Keywords on cooked/burnt items
Idea: Identify scroll name on Magical Tablets
Idea: Earthquake/nofloor rooms
Idea: Reduce ordertalk lag
Idea: Title default
Idea: Innate skills starting at 1%
Idea: Dismiss all
Idea: Glory owner showing in id
Idea: EXP loss message on death
Idea: Bank locations
Idea: Line wrap when using compass
Idea: EXP bonus to Paladins vs evil mobs
Idea: Adept/mana boost
Idea: Compare/container size
Idea: Peek failure message due to cloak
Idea: Skinmask short desc
Idea: Refuge/pets
Idea: Shout/sleepers
Idea: Con/pacifist mob
Multiplay indicator for group display

Denied by VC: (many of these came in through the IDEA command)
Idea: Tzadkiel's Touch adjustment - Will be given to TS to reflect on.
Idea: Casting/Ignore list - ignore spells from those on ignore list.
Idea: Containers on Auction. Too easy for people to abuse with misleading notes and items not meant to be auctioned.
Idea: Bank command (See bank balance with a command). Use the balance command, worth, or score.
Idea: Identity of Auction Seller. Couple of opportunities here for harrassment of the seller.
Idea: Color code "level" command. Just doesn't seem necessary enough for the effort.
Idea: New renames for Blorin. The purpose here is for wedding rings so that people don't have to use glory for them.
Idea: Prompt token for position. Seems a lot of effort for little return. If you arent standing, you cant move. Good as way as any to tell.
Idea: Golden Tickets. Quests are held occasionally asking for these tickets. They've been held at all times, not just EST evenings. Future quests are always being planned. Please watch for them.

Passed by VC
Idea: Arealist command revision allowing, for example areali
Idea: Give/weight message for overburdened recipient
Idea: Keywords on cooked/burnt items
Idea: Identify scroll name on Magical Tablets
Idea: Earthquake/nofloor rooms
Idea: Lights/AC
Idea: Message on failed fill
Idea: Disarm message showing disarmed weapon
Idea: Chan +/- message
Idea: ICQ slot allowing letters and new command NOIM
Idea: Nephandi/lower level attack spell
Idea: Voluntary spell component
Make favouring a bit easier based on years devoted

Denied by VC
Increase level for chardelete - This command was added originally with the intent of never increasing it. A level 2-5 character is essentially valueless.  Higher than that, the value of a well-statted character increases opening us to issues with password theft, people accidentally deleting and requesting that the character be restored and similar.

If you have any questions about these, please contact a TS rep.
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June 6, 2005
Effective immediately in order to better represent you, TS will be removing org reps and placing everyone at large.  We are moving to a more collaborative structure in which all TS reps are encouraged to aid in the proposal process. Where once only a single rep would formulate a proposal on behalf of an individual, the individual and TS as a whole will now make a joint effort to bring the idea to life.

Using a more collaborative approach should encourage proposals that are better developed thereby increasing the likelihood that a proposal will be approved for implementation.

We would like to stress that this does not mean that orgs will not be represented. In fact, orgs are encouraged to work with any TS rep(s) and should also benefit from the change and increased input.

All new applicants to TS will need to apply as an at large rep.

Any questions or concerns should be directed to me.

Regards,
Cappadocius, Head of The Symposium
 

Passed CoE:
**Display which item was disarmed
**Peek failure msg due to cloak
**Arealist command revision
**Skinmask short desc
**Give/weight message
**Shout/sleepers
**Keywords on cooked/burnt items
**Message on failed fill
**Identify scroll name
**Disarm message
**Earthquake/nofloor rooms
**Chan +/- message
**Less lag on ordertalk
**ICQ slot
**Title default
**Tweak Disruption
**Innate skills
**Voluntary spell component
**Dismiss all
**Who Clan
**XP loss message on death
**Favour increases per years devoted
**Additional bank locations
**Petsave toggle
**Line wrap when using compass
**XP bonus: Paladins vs evil mobs
**Compare container size

Denied by CoE:

**Multiplay indicator for group display - This doesn't seem like a part of "in  ;game" knowledge, nor does it seem possible in anyway that other players  should know your multi status. Yes, it would make group members happier to know who was multi'ing, but it doesn't seem sensible and it also seems to be the responsibility of the individual player to ensure they aren't hindering their group.
**(Idea) Adept/mana boost - An experience boost is given on adept. This suggestion would have to be a mana boost for mana casters and a blood boost for mon-mana casters and then what of skills for non-casters or skills generally? It all just doesn't add up.
**(Idea) Glory owner showing in ID - The person that owns a glory tagged item knows that it is. It either _is_ or it _is not_ your item
**(Idea) Con/pacifist mob
**(Idea) Lights with AC

Should you have any questions or comments, please contact a TS rep.

Kinux
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June 13, 2005
Passed
*None

Failed
*Sanc prompt token, prompt token - sanc run time- it was felt that this was easy enough to check.
*Mana points, Increase the mana points given in potions

Please contact a TS rep or Immortal with any questions.
Cappadocius

Denied by CoE
*Multiplay indicator for group display - This doesn't seem like a part of "in game" knowledge, nor does it seem possible in anyway that other players should know your multi status. Yes, it would make group members happier to know who was multi'ing, but it doesn't seem sensible and it also seems to be the responsibility of the individual player to ensure they aren't hindering  their group.
*(Idea) Adept/mana boost - An experience boost is given on adept. This suggestion would have to be a mana boost for mana casters and a blood boost for mon-mana casters and then what of skills for non-casters or skills generally? It all just doesn't add up.
*(Idea) Glory owner showing in ID - The person that owns a glory tagged item  knows that it is. It either _is_ or it _is not_ your item
*(Idea) Con/pacifist mob
*(Idea) Lights with AC

Passed CoE
*Instead of showing the gloried name tag, ID will show that the item -is- tagged. Original idea proposed by Calin.
*Make refuge work on pets of group members. Idea proposed by Sandra

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June 20, 2005
Passed
None

Failed
None

Moved to discussion on forums-
Barbarian devote to Wirawyth- Oxnyx
Skill proficiencies revisited- Bregan

Please direct your questions to a TS rep or Immortal.

Regards,
Cappadocius
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June 27, 2005
A review of policies and progress was conducted. No new business tabled.

Regards,
Cappadocius

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July - Dec 2005

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