TS Meeting Minutes Archive

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July 2006 - Dec 2006

January 1, 2007
No meeting minutes.
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January 8, 2007
Failed
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* Pet killing made punishable - Lots of abuse issues, already sufficient laws to handle the situation.

Discussion
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* Listing/Buying of items (topics included restrictions on purchasing, possible changes, etc).
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January 15, 2007
No votes scheduled this week

Discussion
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An idea from Romani about mailing items was brainstormed and will be given further discussion for next weeks meeting.
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January 22, 2007
Passes/Fails
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None

Discussion
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* Discussion of Circle/Backstab Experience feedback.

* Discussion of creating a proposal for a new attack skill for thieves to aid in leveling at the 25-40 range.
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January 29, 2007
Passes/Fails
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None

Discussion
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None

Announcement
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* Happy Birthday to Wiglaff!
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Feb 5, 2007
Passes/Fails
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None

Discussion
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None

Announcement
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* Discussion of fly refresh, held for next meeting when Kali is present and can be questioned.
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Feb 12, 2007
Passes/Fails
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* Variation of Racial Benefits - Proposal to change the resistance trait for each race to be a range instead of the static 10%. This value would be determined at character creation, and could be between say 8%-12%.

* Adjustments to Feline Grace and Ursine Brawn - Add more affects to each skill but reduce their duration to make them more useful.
* Mail Packages - A facility to mail packages in the mud between characters.

Discussion
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* Discussion of fly refresh, held until next meeting Kali is present.
* Discussion on Player Balance, Forum opened to discuss it, until a more direct system with CoE is established.
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Feb 19, 2007
Passes
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* Changes to Fletch - The spell should be converted to a skill and require 'a shard of flint' and 'a stack of wood' where the stack of wood could be used to make up to 10 arrows, one shard per arrow. Require no mana, but consume some movement pts. Dex and Wisdom should affect the skill usage.
* Tame - Wisdom based Charming skill for rangers that will charm only mobs that are tagged as animals.

Discussion
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* Discussion of fly refresh with Kali. Things discussed included lowering fly duration and allowing fly to be refreshed, having the land command remove fly entirely, equipment being present with perma-fly, and fly's power level.
* Discussion on Player Balance.
 

Moved to CoE
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Guardian Angel Spell for Paladins - Summon a mob for aiding in fights.

Ambush skill for Rangers - Players can lie in wait for prey, dealing some extra damage.

Requiring further work
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Variation in Racial Benefits - Concerns were raised on whether or not this stat should be visible on creation. This makes rerolling even more tedious and if concealed, people would be upset with a poor rating after they have spent a lot of time levelling the character up.

Adjustments to Feline Grace and Ursine Brawn - It has been suggested that these proposals be split - this has been done and they are resubmitted. Further, it has been raised that rangers already receive the highest dodge % of all their genre. Why do they deserve more?
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Feb 26, 2007
Discussion
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* Auggie Proposal Package has been removed to be re-written as separate proposals to be handled and debated one by one.
* Discussion of Liaison Feedback on Variation of Racial Benefits and Adjustments to Feline Grace and Ursine Brawn. Items will be returned to forum for further work and discussion before they are either dropped or resubmitted.
* Discussion of Woodland Harmony's current Aggro on casting status.
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March 5, 2007
Discussion
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* General discussion on character class directions, balance, mkill, gameplay, solo leveling and group leveling.
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March 12, 2007
Passes
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* Augurer package containing changes to the following skills: 3rd Attack, 4th Attack, Enhanced Damage, Spiral Blast, Two-Handed, Prophetic Aura, and Nostrum.
* Seasting - Modification to the seasting skill on Fathomers to make it usable during combat and to increase its duration.
* Issycll - Modification to the issycll spell on Fathomers to make it hit on higher level mobs and increase its duration slightly.
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March 19, 2007
Discussion
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* Meeting cancelled due to Mortal Head's poor DSL link status. - Thanks to Kali for calling a tabling of the meeting!
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March 26, 2007
Passed
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* Proposal for imbuable affects for Darts/Arrows - A new class of dart or arrow that can be imbued with aff_spells either through the intermediary of particular classes or some other method.

Discussion
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* Question about the tracking of the number of TS proposals that have been submitted to CoE and the status of what happened to each proposal since the TS restructure.
* Discussion of the possibility of changing checks so that pets can help fight in the arena.
* Question about the best route to handle cleric proposals that might be incorporated in the the current cleric revamping process.
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April 2, 2007
Passed
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* Proposal to change gash over to using movements as it does not seem appropriate to use mana for a normal physical based skill. Failure due to lack of claw weapon would use no moves.

Discussion
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* Discussion of a family channel was tabled due to input from Kali about an addition to the mud that will be coming with the next code port.
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April 9, 2007
Passed
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* Dream/Nightmare Modification to allow the spell to be used from any room to any room in the realm where normal communication would work.

* Hair color options - Add Teal/Aqua hair colors at character creation for  for Sea-Elves.

Discussion
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* Discussion of Password Bank, proposal held for next week, due to even split of votes.

CoE Decisions - Failed
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* Guardian Angel - Too much room for abuse, walking past guard mobs, etc.

Liason Decisions - Failed
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* Ranged in-room Combat - We still need a complete, summarized proposal on this topic. Please submit again when ready.
* Rangers - Tame - We need more information on how mobs will be chosen as Tameable...is this a Mob Flag? Is this similar to "Animal Empathy"?
* Rangers - Feline Grace - Rangers have sufficient dodge, adding to this skill seems overpowered for the class and the skill itself.
* Augurer - Enhanced Damage / Third Attack / Fourth Attack - It was felt that this would make Augurers too physical-based, we will be tweaking their spells more than their physical attacks at this time.

Liason Decisions - Passed to CoE
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* Mailing Packages
* Changes to Fletch
* Rangers - Ursine Brawn - Add +1 dr
* Fathomer - Issycll - Increase duration, hit higher level mobs
* Fathomer - Seasting - Increase duration, use in combat
* Augurers - Nostrum - Reduce mana cost, lag
* Augurers - Prophetic Aura - Add resist blind
* Augurers - Spiral Blast - Reduce mana cost
* Augurers - Two-Handed - Raise to 95%
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April 16, 2007
* Meeting Cancelled due to low TS attendance.
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April 23, 2007
Passed
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* Combo Moves - For each non-repeating damage skill used in a row without any other skills, spells, or commands separating them, an incremental damage multiplier would affect the damage of the next skill.
* Inventory/Ground Proposal - Change the code to search inventory first for the item, and CONTINUE the search on the ground. Thus 1.item would be in inventory, and 2.item would be on the ground in the above example of only two items.
* Item Command Ordering Proposal - Change all commands to either search from the top, or the bottom, but not a mixture.
* Projectile Damage Modifier - Change it so that "/10" is no longer part of the damage equation for projectiles.
* Modification of appearance - Allow players to have an immortal modify their appearance (i.e. description, hair colour, eyes, weight, etc.) for glory.
* Room echo for quaffing an empty flask - $n sucks the air from an empty flask and burps loudly.
* Replacing old glory with new - Allow player to add glory to a tagged item by restoring the item to its original state and then adding the new glory.
* Proposal to add an argument to the stand command that allows you to stand on objects (or get off furniture). Example: stand ground would move you off of furniture.

Failed
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* Restoration of Auctioneer's Fee - Reinstall the auctioneer's fee at 5%.
* Password Bank for Gold that could be accessible to any character. It was felt there was too much room for abuse.

Passed by CoE
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Augurer - Prophetic Aura, Spiral Blast, Two-Handed, Nostrum
Changes to Fletch
Fathomer - Seasting Tweak
Rangers - Ursine Brawn

Passed by Liasons
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Darts/Arrows with Imbuable Affects
Dream/Nightmare Change
Sea-Elf Hair Colours
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April 30, 2007
No meeting.
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May 7, 2007
No Meeting.

Liasons passed to CoE -
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- Add Argument to Stand
- Combo Moves
- Empty Flask Room Echo
- Modification of Appearance
- Projectile Damage Modifier Change
- Item Command Ordering Problem

Liasons Failed -
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- Ranger Gash - Would prefer not making this movement-based.
- Inventory/Ground Addressing problem - Would create coding / mob problems.
- Replacing old glory with new - Would prefer not changing relics of the past.
- Ranged In-Room Combat - Seems complicated and overall unnecessary.
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May 14, 2007
* All proposals present have been up for less than a week. They are being
given additional time to complete voting.
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May 21, 2007
Passed
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* Weapon DISARM Idea - Proposal to add a tagging to weapons that are disarmed so the owner can get their weapons using something similar to 'get my.weapon' This would allow for bypassing untagged as well as other people's weapons in a large pile present in many fights.
* Identifying Sectors - Proposal to identify the broad sector type of the room either as letter or symbol in place of the compass (+) or alternatively as a token for prompts.
* Remove level 1 rolling characters from mob/room IP checks - This will allow players to roll characters while running or exploring as rolling requires quite a bit of time.
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May 28, 2007
No Meeting Minutes.
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June 3, 2007
No Meeting Minutes.
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June 10, 2007
Passed
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* Thief Innate Scry Removal - Proposal to remove innate scry from thieves as there is no thematic reason for it.
* Allowing Pre-auth Renaming - Allow the free use of the name command to rename a character in pre-auth. Once an application is made, i.e. past  a point or pulling the cord, the name command should be disabled.
* Advancing Group Leveling, Solution 1 - Proposal to change the XP in direct proportion to mob HP and to increase the rate at which XP drops over time in a fight.
* Advancing Group Leveling, Solution 2 - Proposal to change how XP from combat is distributed to the group.

Passed by CoE
- Add argument to Stand, to enable getting down from furniture.
- Combo Moves
- Item Command Ordering problem.
- Projectile Damage Modifier Change.
- Teal hair colour option for Sea-Elves.
- Quaffing empty flask room echo.
- Dream/Nightmare Change. Note - This proposal will also take astral zones into affect, as well as silences and ignores.
- Darts/Arrows with Imbuable Affects. Note - This proposal has passed with the caveat that objects made will only be useable by the class who makes them.
-Elemental Damage for Weapons

CoE Failed -
Mailing Packages -- The feeling was it was a nice idea, but a lot of work and potentially abuseable for little tangible gain.
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June 17, 2007
Passed
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* Advancing General Leveling - A proposal to rewrite the current xp formula to accurately represent the toughness of a mob. This includes adding terms for mob dodge, mob parry, mob extra attacks and defenses, mob saves, mob damroll, and a reconstitution of the currently horrendous terms.

Failed by Liasons
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Preauth Characters not counting in IP checks.
-Why should those with rollers in preauth be given exemption from ip checks when characters being run for the benefit of others (such as donation guards) are not exempted?
-This would allow people to roll characters 24/7 until they get their ideal stats. If we were to allow that, then why not simply let them choose their stats within certain bounds?
-There might be server-load implications if we had 500 chars in preauth rerolling 24/7 too.

Identifying Sectors
-It would be better to check that the skills/spells give clear fail messages, rather than allowing sector identify.

my.weapon idea
-When theres a pile of nearly identical weapons clattering about on the ground it should not be immediately obvious which ones belong to whom.

New class - Monks
-We do not currently need a new class, and may want to wait until any Cleric revamp is revealed as there could be overlap.
-Reading through the slist, while there are elements that are innovative and imaginative, the overall effect is just overpowered.
-The adept %'s are too high. They can't be that good at everything.
-Best without weapons, yet two weapon types adept at 95% and one at 75%.
-A number of their skills are far too powerful, ie: replacing supplicate.
-The theme does not seem to fit with the idea of Monks, as monks are people who are extremely religious, yet these do not devote or believe in deities.

Thief innate scry removal
-This sort of negative change would really frustrate a lot of players, and serves no useful purpose.
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June 24, 2007
Passed
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* Directional Flee - Proposal to allow flee to be used to attempt to flee in a specific direction 'flee <dir>'. Two checks would be needed, first to check for a successful flee attempt, a second check for the directional flee
* Augurer Spell: Ruinous Fate - New Damage Spell proposal that used 1/4-1/5 of a crystal and does damage range between gash and paradox flux. This is intended to augment Augurer PK ability.
* HP/Mana Glorying Characters - Proposal to allow HP/Mana to be added to characters in the same manner (and cost ratio) as stats.

Discussion
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* Fan of Knives Proposal - Comments and Suggestions were brought forth to have the proposal rewritten to include more information.
* Jelincth Flails Proposal - Debate over whether TS could/should propose changes to in game items. Proposal has been tabled until Mortal Head can meet with Akael.
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July 2007

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